Conversation with Senator Mike Barrett

On Tuesday, March 30, 175 people joined a zoom call to discuss the new climate legislation that sets Massachusetts on a path to “net zero”. You can view/listen to the call at Belmont Media Center (good video, consistently speaker view) or on Youtube (video is often gallery view, but download is quicker). The audio seems good in both versions.

Chat from the call.

19:00:34 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone Hi all!

19:02:08 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone 1) Outline the bill (w. Senator Mike)

19:02:13 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone 2) Poll

19:02:24 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone 3) Open Q&A

19:03:04 From Mike Barrett to Everyone Can’t unmute myself….

19:14:07 From sherry morgan to Everyone Thanks for all of your work to get this bill approved!

19:15:10 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone What we need is SMALL electric cars. I drove one for six years – it was the cheapest car I ever drove. We need to import Renault Zoe and Fiat 500e!

19:15:37 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone (Yay buses! Yay electric buses!)

19:15:57 From Paul Shorb to Everyone Re net zero bldg code, can you say more how the final bill came out? Does it require creation of such a code, but leave it as an stretch code that towns have the option to adopt or not? Or does it eventually become mandatory?

19:16:20 From Patty Nolan (she/her/hers) to Everyone We also need EV infrastructure – so folks can know they can fill it up. especially if they don’t have a driveway.

19:16:22 From Bruce gellerman121 to Everyone Sen Barrett= are you prepared to subsidize electric vehicles and home heating electrification?

19:16:27 From kathrynrifkin to Everyone I have a Leaf and am shocked that the range is so small, and the available charging is so few and so slow

19:16:42 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone +1 Paul Shorb. I haven’t followed this as much as some have…

19:16:45 From Allan Fierce to Everyone Question: Can you talk a bit about the struggle over the emissions limit for 2030? (45% vs 50% below 1990)

19:18:12 From pat to Everyone can’t submit

19:18:15 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone what is a fuel pump?

19:18:31 From Morris Trichon to Everyone Cannot submit

19:18:31 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone @Sabine: Heat Pump, I think?

19:18:32 From Anne H to Everyone Two questions: What is the plan for encouraging people to use the T? Also, what about nuclear power plants, both old technology and new technology plants?

19:18:32 From Marty Bitner to Everyone Fuel pump == heat pump I suppose

19:18:52 From Pasi Miettinen to Everyone Should “switched to fuel pump” be “heat pump” [editors note: CORRECT — there was a typo in the poll — fuel pump should have said “heat pump”]

19:18:54 From pat to Everyone it says submit at bottom but nothing happens when I hit

19:18:54 From James (Jom) Michel, he/his to Everyone that was my assumption as well

19:19:00 From Alfrieda Krantz to Everyone Agreed! Is there anything in the bill to encourage public transportation?

19:19:03 From Pierce Haley to Everyone if you maximize the poll you can see the 3 questions.

19:19:21 From David S to William Brownsberger(Direct Message) It would be great to learn more about measuring cumulative env impacts of projects

19:19:51 From larry Stoodt 350 to Everyone is the time limit to switching the state to net-zero construction still in the bill?

19:20:21 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone Q. Big-picture question (and I don’t want to renegotiate the bill, and I may also just not know all the pieces of it, but I’m curious): Are there good non-electric options to the vehicle and building design issues? [I was v. interested at one point in a weird idea called manure-derived synthetic crude oil.] And did you consider these when working on the bill?

19:20:31 From Jeanne Mooney to Everyone Are there state programs to inform and provide guidance and to training HVAC contractors? Certify contractors in Net Zero Building.

19:20:35 From Alexandra to Everyone Another choice that I would’ve answered yes to on the poll is signed up for the town’s 100% green option for electricity bills.

19:20:43 From Ed Woll, Cambridge, Gas Leaks Allies to Everyone It is a great legislative achievement, and looking to the immediate future: Do you have an estimate of how much money can and needs to be raised in the MassSave program to retrofit housing that have old knob-and-tube wiring and no insulation and upgrade it top 100 amp or more service just to accommodate heat pumps?

19:21:11 From Ed Woll, Cambridge, Gas Leaks Allies to Everyone On replacing the existing gas system,:

19:21:23 From Ed Woll, Cambridge, Gas Leaks Allies to Everyone How do we make sure that hydrogen does not get mixed with gas or replace gas in the existing pipeline infrastructure? AND How can we educate people that “renewable”: gas is really just methane by another name?

19:21:49 From Charles Uglietto Cubby Oil & Energy to Everyone Given the increased electric grid load from the electrify everything legislation and the challenges of making the existing grid more renewable, how does this legislation even reduce GHG emissions?

19:21:51 From robertoppenheim440marlborough to Everyone we need charging stations if electric vehicles are viable.

19:22:08 From Mary Ann to Everyone wanting to buy an electric car but living in an apartment presnts a big challenge. Mary Ann Brogan

19:23:33 From Cassandra (she/her/hers) to Everyone can move it

19:23:45 From William H Green to Everyone I heard that administration would have an option to impose a carbon tax in some sectors. If that happened, would the legislature then decide what to do with the revenue?

19:23:48 From Michael Ferrante to Everyone Senator Barrett: How do you reconcile your remarks about replacing your oil fired heating system in favor of expensive, poor-performing heat pumps but then you support cutting Mass Save rebates for tens of thousands of heating oil customers who cannot afford heat pumps?

19:25:33 From Leslie Pond to Everyone Thank you so much for hosting this session. Could you also speak about funding or financing to meet our goals – incentives, etc?

19:25:46 From Joseph Rotella (he or they) Pequossette Land to Everyone Is there anything is this bill that stops big investment into fossil fuel infrastructure and transfers those investment into renewable energy infrastructure?

19:25:52 From eric broadbent (he/him/his) to Everyone How to create/encourage local businesses? (given NZ won’t require changes to existing…). What about local small-scale solar companies – which really need the net-metering limits lifted.

19:26:04 From Stephen Ronan to Everyone Where can I find a persuasive rebuttal to this?

19:26:06 From Stephen Ronan to Everyone Climate policy expert says subsidies for Tesla and other EV companies “one of the worst ways to cut carbon emissions” https://seekingalpha.com/news/3673843-climate-expert-says-subsidies-for-tesla-and-other-ev-companies-one-of-the-worst-ways-to-cut-carbon-emissions

19:26:54 From Cassandra to Everyone We need wayfinding signs now so people know where they could find EV chargers. MassDOT needs to help with this.

19:27:41 From Patty Nolan (she/her/hers) to Everyone the capacity of the electric grid needs to be monitored and ensure it can handle a switch to heat pumps. And the electricity needs to be renewable – especially solar and wind not biomass .

19:27:46 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone @Stephen: Bjorn Lomborg is a known climate denier, subsidized by the merchants of doubt.

19:27:50 From Mary Ann to Everyone With notable excepyions, we all look rather senior. Maybe, the biggest challenge maybe to get the younger folks involved….After all, this will be primarily their problem

19:28:47 From Steve Klionsky to Everyone Congratulations in getting this bill passed. A huge accomplishment. My question is that as we electrify our energy uses we are going to need to site a lot more solar and wind generations and the transmission lines that connect these facilities to the grid. At the same time, there is increasing public opposition to siting these facilities. owe do we overcome this problem?

19:28:53 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone The one prob. w. using the last 13 months as an example is that everyone’s hated it

19:30:32 From eliotwilder to Everyone What about stemming the tide on overdevelopment? Here in the East Fenway, these projects are ongoing, and each is having a huge impact on the environment: Current/recent projects: ? 500,000-square-foot building on corner of Fullerton/Brookline ? Tear down and new construction at Star Market site ? New Star Market on far side of Bed, Bath and Beyond ? Fenway Park Entertainment complex ? New Fenway Arts Academy ? New buildings for Fenway Park along Brookline Ave and Yawkey ? New apartments above Metro Rail ? New construction behind Tasty Burger ? Kilmarnock Street project ? Scape project ? New buildings in Kenmore Square

19:31:04 From Kim Humphrey (she/her) to Everyone It seems like much of this conversation is about how individual consumers are changing their practices, given new, greener incentive structures. How are you working to regulate the private sector that is pumping out pollution at a ridiculous rate? Isn’t this ultimately an industry problem, not a consumer problem? I fear that packaging this as a consumer problem protects industry from regulation and reinforces individualist, consumerist “solutions” that cannot save us.

19:31:22 From Peter Papesch to Everyone All persons who need to own a car should be given the information about how profitable the life cycle ownership of an EV is relative to that of owning a fossil-fuel vehicle.

19:31:31 From Cassandra (she/her/hers) to Everyone +1 Kim

19:31:48 From Eileen Ryan, Watertown to Everyone Well said, Kim H.

19:33:01 From Jeanne Mooney to Everyone Is nuclear energy something we need to be revisitimg?

19:33:25 From Dolores Boogdanian to Everyone I agree that the siting of large scale solar and wind farms is problematic, which is why building solar and other means of energy generation and energy conservation directly in our residential and commercial buildings is so important and way to decentralize energy production. Subsituting giant solar/wind farms for power plants seems a poor direction and leaves too much power in the power producers.

19:33:29 From Joseph Rotella (he or they) Pequossette Land to Everyone Yes, Kim….Individual changes are not the issue, what is the shift on the societal level that this bill addresses to reduce climate emissions.

19:33:37 From Dolores Boogdanian to Everyone NO NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS!!!!

19:33:42 From Steve Klionsky to Everyone Wood and rerfuse are hardly green

19:33:46 From Lisa MT to Everyone Honestly, addressing climate change will require a huge cultural shift from our wasteful, short term, extremely mobile and individualistic consumer economy/society to a whole new vision that sustains people, animals and our planet. We can’t just electrify our current state. What might this new future look like and how do we make this an engaging cultural shift across a wide spectrum of people?

19:34:00 From Dolores Boogdanian to Everyone A totally ridiculous idea. Stupid stupid stupid

19:34:15 From Eileen Ryan, Watertown to Everyone No Nuclear and NO BIOMASS, burning.

19:34:15 From Joseph Rotella (he or they) Pequossette Land to Everyone NUCLEAR IS NOT A GOOD OPTION

19:35:00 From Allan Fierce to Everyone Seems like the emphasis on new EVs is a massive failure on “equitable” grounds. Low- and moderate-income drivers will likely always be stuck in the used vehicle market. What about used vehicle “buy-back” programs that might benefit those folks?

19:35:20 From Serge Savard to Everyone Hydro power is renewable

19:35:27 From Brian Hebeisen to Everyone fusion has been 5 to 10 years away for 50 years

19:36:08 From Ed Woll, Cambridge, Gas Leaks Allies to Everyone May I suggest that there is a definitional issue:? Fusion is not nuclear; it is molecular.

19:36:10 From Dolores Boogdanian to Everyone I am very concerned that the effort to reduce use of fossil fuels could lead us into using an even more dangerous sources. Radioactivity is the worst of pollutants

19:36:17 From Marcia Hart to Everyone As a past perennial protestor at Seabrook I was told in 1977 about the coming resolution of the waste problem, because science was close to solving that

19:36:26 From Alexander Dale (he/him) to Everyone Thank you Mike for recognizing the importance of keeping existing nuclear online as a baseload source of low-carbon power

19:36:27 From Lori Kenschaft to Everyone Thank you very much, Sen. Barrett, for being honest about the necessity of nuclear energy for stabilizing our climate. I completely agree with you. (I used to be an anti-nuclear activist, but climate change and modern technology have changed my mind.)

19:36:45 From Stephen Ronan to Everyone Thanks, Sabine… I see as per Wikipedia “His issue is not with the reality of climate change, but rather with the economic and political approaches being taken (or not taken) to meet the challenges of that climate change.” And ” In April 2015 he gained further attention when he issued a call for all subsidies to be removed from fossil fuels on the basis that “a disproportionate share of the subsidies goes to the middle class and the rich”…making fossil fuel so “inexpensive that consumption increases, thus exacerbating global warming”.[55] In publications such as The Wall Street Journal he argued that the most productive use of resources would be a massive increase in funding for research to make renewable energy economically competitive with fossil fuels.”

19:37:27 From Alan & Barbara Cullen to Everyone There is a developing industry in hydrogen fuel cells.

19:38:34 From Peter Papesch to Everyone Beacon Energy initiated a electricity storage system based on fly-wheel technology. How about exploring this a bit more?

19:38:43 From Noah Wieckowski to Everyone EVs are not the only way to move people with little emissions, and do not address the congestion issues that existed pre-COVID. Does the Commonwealth plan to advance other modes of transit, like improved/electrified MBTA service, increased biking infrastructure, and more transit-oriented development?

19:38:53 From Jeanne Mooney to Everyone Will these solutions rely on rare earth minerals? There is collateral damage to the environment.

19:39:04 From Morris Trichon to Everyone Battery technology is changing daily. If Lithium can go too boiled from liquid the energy density will increase greatly. Also need to standardize batteries so they can be recycled

19:39:04 From Sue Prindle’s iPad to Everyone if you think about how much money was invested in getting the gasoline automobile off the ground, this effort will be comparable.

19:39:28 From Dolores Boogdanian to Everyone Reducing demand for energy is the very best way to go, not increasing acces to energy with the use of nuclear power and other problematic sources.

19:39:37 From Doug Koplow to Everyone EESI had a great webinar on challenges for nuclear power today. Slides from Amory Lovins at link below on why nuclear doesn’t provide a climate solution, which requires not just low carbon, but also the ghg emissions that can be achieved fastest and at lowest cost. https://www.eesi.org/files/Amory_Lovins_032x21_v3.pdf

19:40:13 From Pasi Miettinen to Everyone Senators – would you be able to provide as many details as possible about the net zero building code and the guidance to DOER and others with regard to implementation? Thank you!

19:40:46 From Steve Young to Everyone How to measure the priority of this issue relative to education, affordable housing , etc. How to simplify the issue to gain general buy it for investment over other urgent social needs?

19:40:46 From Morris Trichon to Everyone Sorry for mistakes in last chat, spell check changes things not intended

19:41:22 From Alexander Dale (he/him) to Everyone Does that 2030 purchasing target for zero-emission vehicles permit our awesome trolleybuses?

19:41:27 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone Q.: What are we doing about financing for the T? (Esp. given these necessary additional costs.) And what are we doing abt. public transit in the rest of the state?

19:41:33 From Patty Nolan (she/her/hers) to Everyone as protected bike lanes proliferate and electric bikes become more widespread, there could be far fewer cars on the road – and an e-bike uses a lot less electricity to transport a person than an EV car.

19:42:17 From Josh Burson (Boston, USA) to Everyone But yeah, we should spend some time on the details about the net zero building code.

19:42:31 From sherry morgan to Everyone WE have so little public transportation in western MA – really need to look at alternatives

19:43:05 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone Fully agree!!!

19:43:34 From sherry morgan to Everyone Yes, and we need access to Broadband in western MA!

19:43:37 From mkelley to Everyone with regard to heat pumps, are they able to heat a house in the Northeast during the winter?

19:44:16 From Alexander Dale (he/him) to Everyone Heat pumps work great in our climate, even in winter!

19:44:17 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone I’ve had a heatpump for 6 years now. No additional fuel source. Working fine.

19:44:26 From Kim Humphrey (she/her) to Everyone The people who can work from home are overwhelmingly those who can afford electric cars.

19:44:35 From Eileen Ryan, Watertown to Everyone Yes, A lot of homes in Maine use heat pumps.

19:44:38 From Serge Savard to Everyone Some models of heat pumps can still work at low temperatures as seen in the lower Northeast (e.g Boston)

19:44:45 From Morris Trichon to Everyone It is close. Not much heat to extract from the ambient air

19:44:54 From Doug Koplow to Everyone Why are you talking about large subsidies to EVs? Costs are falling quickly, and even now, MIT suggests the total cost (purchase plus operating) is lower for EVs than gasoline vehicles. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/15/climate/electric-car-cost.html

19:45:02 From Bunker Henderson to Everyone Does the Roadmap law call for development of emissions performance standards for existing buildings? If so, what agency will do this, and what guidance is set forth in the new law on this subject?

19:45:08 From Lisa MT to Everyone Can we convert some empty office space to affordable energy efficient housing?

19:45:10 From Marcia Ciro to Everyone Can heat pumps replace gas and radiators in a 100-year-old house?

19:45:26 From Michael Small to Everyone careful on this, my company’s hinting we’ll mostly go back in. a year or two may show that not a promising path

19:45:31 From Joe Uglietto to Everyone On a cold winter evening, the fuel mix of the ISO-NE grid typically has a higher percentage of coal and oil than renewables. Converting all buildings to heat pumps would more than double the winter grid load, therefore demanding twice as much net-zero electricity to meet a 100% zero-carbon electric grid. This additional grid load will significantly increase the cost of electricity for all ratepayers. How do you plan to explain the grid load increasing from heat pump installations at a faster rate than renewable electricity generation growth, which will increase the greenhouse gas emissions from electricity over time?

19:46:04 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone Which is why we must green the grid with offshore wind etc.

19:46:19 From Patty Nolan (she/her/hers) to Everyone I agree – it is not the EV cost (my Bolt cost $23K after rebates, etc. and I financed it with a good rate) and the operating costs are less. It is the public charging infrastructure for people who don’t have driveways that is challenging.

19:47:18 From Alfrieda Krantz to Everyone 23k is still quite out of reach for many folks.

19:48:13 From kathrynrifkin to Everyone Could those 250 trees be saved?

19:48:17 From Alexander Dale (he/him) to Everyone Some of EV access will also require turnover so EVs are more available in the used car markets

19:48:59 From Shea Brams to Everyone Thank you so much Senator Barrett for working so hard to pass this. Climate policy implementation is a really complicated process and everyone has different opinions, but my generation (I’m 18) is beyond grateful for your hard work.

19:50:06 From Cassandra to Everyone Can this new law stop an eversource substation in East Boston, in an area suffering from negative cumulative impacts?

19:50:29 From Marcia Ciro to Everyone All these ideas of switching to electric cars, heat pumps, etc. will increase the need for base electricity—how will that be produced? How will that be distributed? What will be the cost as usage goes up? I remember in the 70s when electric baseboard heat became the rage—until people realized how much more expensive it was. That was then, but I am always suspicious of new technology. It always has consequences that proponents prefer not to think about or completely ignore. There are consequences to all solutions.

19:50:32 From Marcia Hart to Everyone +1 for Shea’s comment (I’m 71)

19:51:09 From Michael Ferrante to Everyone So once again, you support cutting Mass Save rebates for heating oil customers but you are advocating for the EJ community. Contradictory and unfair.

19:51:25 From Alfrieda Krantz to Everyone Yes! So encouraged to see an 18 year old here getting involved! 🙂

19:53:05 From David Esopi to William Brownsberger(Direct Message) Hi Sen Brownsberger, Just wanted to say thanks for all your work on climate! Keep it up! ?

19:58:48 From James (Jom) Michel, he/his to William Brownsberger(Direct Message) Thank you Senator, a great event, important public service. I have to go

20:01:18 From eric broadbent (he/him/his) to Everyone oh my…

20:04:57 From Rose Mauro to Everyone re: the power stations for apartment dwellers, what might work is co-working locations with charging infrastructure in parking lots.

20:08:09 From Mark Dyen to Everyone Home rule petitions will put pressure on the legislature as well.

20:09:42 From Marcia Hart to Everyone Tried to reach Harry directly but no answer, if you know Harry please say hi from me…Harry Parsekian!!!! I am the woman you met at Logan Airport long ago and you transported a tape to a dear friend of mine all the way to Armenia. So nice to see your name.

20:13:01 From Cassandra to Everyone And why won’t MassSave pay for insulating basement ceilings? A room with a furnace is not a conditioned space. And their contractor work is not supervised…no one follows up.

20:13:53 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone @Cassandra: I agree. MassSave needs to be restructured so that the goal is the best possible insulation, and not just whatever Eversource is willing to sponsor.

20:15:10 From Mark Dyen to Everyone The issue on Mass Save is the cost effectiveness calculation that Sen. Barrett referred to. Insulating the basement ceiling doesn’t pencil out under current rules.

20:15:17 From Lisa MT to Everyone Thank you for work to improve Mass Save.

20:16:22 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone btw – the majority here said they have reduced their meat intake – you might be interested in this event next Tuesday: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/could-veganism-cool-the-planet-tickets-144504162841

20:19:29 From Carl Seglem to Everyone Thank you both, Senators

20:20:54 From Alfrieda Krantz to Everyone Thanks for sharing the link to that event Sabine

20:20:54 From Stephen Ronan to Everyone Thanks for passing that on, Sabine. I wonder whether in developing the state bill there was any focus on reducing scope 3 emissions, such as those created by animal agriculture outside the state as a result of purchases within the state.

20:21:23 From Michael Small to Everyone or hydrogen

20:21:49 From eric broadbent (he/him/his) to Everyone it’s a temperature issue – can’t get the high temps for hydronic systems from eolectricity

20:22:48 From Mark Dyen to Everyone Correct, Eric. Heat pumps are pretty good replacements for furnaces, but not currently available for boilers.

20:23:16 From Marcia Hart to Everyone Hope people will lobby for Sen Barrett’s bill that was lost last session. This time it’s SD.2419 to establish a Climate Policy Committee-new independence., public watchdog commission to oversee the govt handling of the climate crisis. A science based view of natural, economic, demographic impacts and risks! A very good idea

20:24:14 From Serge Savard to Everyone The efficiency of hydronic systems (hot water or steam) and furnaces is quite low compared to heat pumps and forced air systems.

20:24:39 From Marcia Ciro to Everyone Yes, the rule of unintended consequences.

20:25:43 From Charles Uglietto Cubby Oil & Energy to Everyone Mark, Biofuel Heat pumps are being designed and tested by Rocky Mountain Institute which will provide the heat necessary for hydronic systems in even the coldest climates. Charlie

20:29:28 From eric broadbent (he/him/his) to Everyone Sen Barrett can you run for gov /

20:31:53 From Mark Dyen to Everyone Charles – yes and there are CO2 refrigerant based heat pumps that can raise the temperature of water to 170 degrees, which is plenty. But none of these are readily available for installations now. Which means we need to start with what we can do now and look forward to the newer technologies that will help us down the road.

20:32:53 From Patty Nolan (she/her/hers) to Everyone Sen. Brownsberger – can you keep the chat and post it to your website? It contains lots of good suggestions and ideas.

20:35:27 From Steve Klionsky to Everyone Here is a totally different angle:

20:37:41 From William Brownsberger to Everyone Yes. Will be saved.

20:37:53 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone zoning needs to be a part of this.

20:37:54 From William Brownsberger to Everyone Chat will be saved.

20:38:37 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone YES!!!!!

20:38:50 From Alfrieda Krantz to Everyone Yes!

20:39:15 From Alfrieda Krantz to Everyone We need to look at models of rural areas that still have public transporation

20:40:06 From Steve Klionsky to Everyone Here is a totally different angle: I’m not a scientist but I understand that even if the world went to carbon neutral today, there is so much CO2 in the atmosphere and the oceans, the planet would continue to warm for hundreds or perhaps thousands of years. Weather will be changing and seas will be rising. We need to look at how we deal with the inevitability of warming.

20:40:28 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone I live 15 car minutes from Brandeis – no option for public transit. We should put safe bike paths on all commuter roads like Route 9, Route 20, 30.

20:40:43 From Doug Koplow to Everyone Tons of EV truck startups now. Hopefully some of them work, costs fall quickly, and the negative aspects of CAFE are greatly lessened.

20:41:06 From sherry morgan to Everyone The Franklin County RTA is the only RTA in the state that has no night or weekend service.

20:41:07 From Patty Nolan (she/her/hers) to Everyone correct about needing to have both a climate reslieincy/mitigation plan AND a reduction of emissions plan. we are working on both.

20:42:14 From Stephen Ronan to Everyone Thanks, Fred Salvucci! Very helpfully informative

20:45:44 From Dan Elias to Everyone Thanks Will & Sen Barrett! Wonderful presentation and dialogue, and work well done getting the bill passed. Good night!

20:47:25 From Marcia Hart to Everyone Thank you both Fred and Dolores, excellent additions to create a more full conversation

20:47:30 From Rep. Steve Owens to Everyone Thank you, Senators. Looking forward to carrying the baton further!

20:54:30 From Timely Muse to Everyone Is there a plan to pressure Massport regarding air traffic volume and pollution over the city, especially particular neighborhoods?

20:59:57 From Lori Kenschaft to Everyone I’m very glad to hear about the increased funding for training people to do this work. I too have found it difficult to find people who know how to design and install these technologies.

21:01:30 From Priscilla Hunt to Everyone Critical Mass Solar 978-877-9852 installed 36 Solar panels Total Comfort Mechanical 781-697-9016 retrofitted my house very quickly and successfully!

21:03:05 From Sabine von Mering to Everyone Thank you for a terrific conversation!!!

21:03:05 From Jeanne Mooney to Everyone Thank you Senators!

21:03:18 From Ed Woll, Cambridge, Gas Leaks Allies to Everyone Thank you so much.

21:03:30 From Alfrieda Krantz to Everyone Thank you!

21:03:32 From Pierce Haley to Everyone Thank you Senators.

21:03:34 From Cassandra (she/her/hers) to Everyone thank you for all of this and being available for conversation and questions!

21:03:44 From Christine O’Neill to Everyone Thank you so much for sharing your time with us this evening and all of your perspectives.

21:03:56 From Peter Dorfman to Everyone Thank you to both Will and Mike for this excellent and valuable meeting.

21:03:56 From Lauren Mattison, UMass Clean Energy Extension to Everyone Thanks Senator Brownsberger and Senator Barrett for all your work

21:03:57 From Eileen Ryan to Everyone Thank you, Will and Mike.

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