Our America

1. Thank you for being at the vigil in Belmont last night. I wasn’t surprised that you were there, but your presence was appreciated nonetheless. It’s always good to know that our local elected officials will stand up for justice.

2. Fantastic words, Will! First email I opened…

3. Well said Will.

   What happened by a few disturbed, racist and hateful individuals in Virginia is incredibly disturbing and sad.

   The conflict between “I hate them so I want to squash those racists’ voices so bad and not let them congregate” vs “Let them do what they want, and don’t give them the time of day so they’ll be ignored,” is what America is about. The harder we work at balancing that conflict is what makes us American.

   It reminds of that scene in the American President where Michael Douglas (as POTUS) talked about “defending those very ideas that disgust me is hard work; it’s advanced citizenship.”

   So many of us have been put into a “my team” vs “their team” mentality that we often forget that regardless of whether someone is Republican or Democrat, Liberal vs Conservative, Black or White, Sox fan or Yankees fan (ok, let’s hold on that one) that we’re all pretty much the same (with the exception of some extreme fringe groups like the KKK).

   A lot of people forgot that in Charlottesville, and none of us are helped by our inept national leadership, who puts fuel to the fire for their own selfish needs…because “Yay team! I won!”

   Thanks for the note, and keep doing what you’re doing as State Senator!

4. I’d like to see counter protests adopt the theme of “Turning our backs” on the new Nazis. It would be very effective to see these fringe groups utterly dwarfed by the overwhelming size of mainstream Americans at a countervailing event who completely refuse to engage with them.

   What I very much do not want to see is a bunch of antifa in black masks spraying mace. Not helpful.

   1. Completely agree.

5. good to hear a positive message at this time. well done

6. Thanks Will.
   This is a brush fire, as you said, and will not go anywhere, it will be suffocated quickly but most American that think differently, guided by the sacred beliefs chiseled in our laws, old and new.

7. Thanks Will – excellent article.

8. You wrote: The provocative invasion of Charlottesville by torch-carrying racists declaring that America belongs to whites was un-American and ugly.

   I reply: Welcome to the American climate Democrat Hussien Obama created in 8 years to which nobody, Democrats included, dared complain.

   1. Arrant nonsense

9. Senator Brownsberger,
   Thank you for these thoughtful words. I am so very disappointed with America these past few months, feeling that so much good was being dismantled without a protest from people who could have stopped the destruction. You have given me hope.
   Pam Clancey

10. Once again, Will, well done!

11. Your ideals are noble, Mr. Brownsberger, but America has been a racist society since 1616, when the first blacks were unwillingly brought to our shores.

    Racisim is not an essential characteristic of human beings, such a bi-pedalism. It is a cultural attribute that can be whipped up by demagogic leaders, such as Donald Trump.

    If you agree that Trump doesn’t want to disengage from white supremacists, then I urge you to ask your legislative colleagues to pass as resolution denouncing him

    1. President Trump did just that twice already !! What more do you want, how many times and ways does he have to say it !

       1. It took President Trump 2 days to call out Neo Nazis and the KKK by name. It really should not be that difficult to condemn those groups. Perhaps denouncing them as quickly and forcefully as he denounces CNN and a whole host of other annoyances would be a start.

          I also notice you don’t really identify yourself. Why is that?

          1. Unless you have a different transcript, what I read said he condemned the KKK and Nazis by name the first day.

             1. Steven Salerno claims he read Trump’s transcript.

                That’s untrue. He read only the part that he liked.

                When reporters repeatedly questioned Trump about the Charlottesville fascists (KKK, Nazis, white nationalists, white supremacists), Trump replied:

                “But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.”

                People who worship the selling, buying, ownership, and enslavement of other human beings are never “very fine people.”

                The fascists that Trump condemns are the very same fascists that he praises. Any potential condemnation totally fails when followed by a description of the condemned as “very fine people.”

                Only a fascist calls other fascists “very fine people.”

                Source:
                “Full Text of Trump’s Comments on Fascists in Charlottesville”
                Politico, 15-Aug-2017
                http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/15/full-text-trump-comments-white-supremacists-alt-left-transcript-241662

       2. He needs to fire Bannon and Gorka, restore funding to every law enforcement effort directed against white nationalist domestic terrorists, and appoint some women and people of color and democrats to cabinet positions. That would be a reasonable start.

12. Thank you for your eloquent statement and reminders of our core values Will.

13. Thanks, Will! I couldn’t agree more.

14. Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I’d like to participate in a peaceful gathering this Saturday far away from the common.

15. Thank you for “showing up,” Will. Too often these days the patient reiteration of fundamental American commitments to equality and equal access to justice and opportunity is drowned out by anarchist voices and sentiments. Your consistent representation of those values is a notable exception.

    Well said, and well done!

16. Absolutely spot on in all aspects of this memo, proud to stand with you.

17. Very well stated- Thank you

18. T thank you for clarity about the Saturday rally and for a strong stand for justice and civility.

19. I find your innuendo that President Trump is tangentially responsible for this latest extremist eruption disturbing. If you pledge allegiance to the republic and its constitution, you should join in supporting the duly elected constitutional officer, President Trump, in disavowing the violent extremism from both sides of the political spectrum. As to safe spaces, I think a great deal of blame in this goes to the inaction of the Charlottesville police (as in Baltimore) in not quickly suppressing a dangerous situation and arresting the perpetrators. I hope Boston law enforcement will be better prepared. A great deal of the violence at the Trump rallies was proved to have been set up and paid for by George Soros connected groups — I suspect much of this same rent-a-mob is showing up here. In other words, we have the National Socialists vs. the International Socialists — both groups are to be avoided, and I hope prosecuted.

    1. Although there was no intended innuendo in the piece, since you raise it, I do feel that a President that keeps people like Steve Bannon in the West Wing is encouraging extremists. He needs to separate himself much more thoroughly from those elements.

       It does appear that, as you say, that there were a few left wing anarchists who joined the response to the extremist rally and didn’t help the situation.

       I can’t opine on how the Charlottesville police handled things — there were a lot of things happening at once, but I’m very hopeful that we will manage any similar events better here.

       1. Apparently the Mayor and Governor agreed on a strategy to have the police to “stand aside”:

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-mayhem-charlottesville_us_598fc9a8e4b0909642977f9c

          1. There was no “both” in Charlottesville; that was a Trump … misstatement … which the alt-right took as supporting their case. (And they’re still claiming his support: “He called out racists; we’re nationalists.”) There is no oath in this country requiring support for a fool just because they sit in the Oval Office; if there were, a number of military officers would have been cashiered during the Clinton and Obama terms.

             1. Yes, there was both. Antifa was present. People brought tear gas. I know people who accommodate violence keep trying to reach for excuses but I won’t let them! 🙂

                1. Steven Salerno’s own language reveals his biased report (“Anti-fascists were present. People brought tear gas.”).

                   Yes, the fascists (KKK, Nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists) brought tear gas, camouflage clothing, combat uniforms, helmets, goggles, bullet-proof vests, ammo-belts, swords, bats, violence symbols, and all types of firearms, whereas the anti-fascist counter-protesters brought backpacks, water, and first aid supplies.

                   What everyone brought, said, and did is exquisitely documented right here.

                   “Charlottesville: Race and Terror”
                   HBO Vice News, 14-Aug-2017
                   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg

    2. Please send evidence of George Soros connected groups, because I have not read anything credible on that.

       The only thing I saw when I searched that was an Alex Jones piece, which was debunked by politifact as “pants on fire” status. Link below

       http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/14/alex-jones/infowars-alex-jones-falsely-says-george-soros-hill/

       1. Veritas /Robert Creamer/ Wash. Post
          http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/23/project-veritas-videos-could-land-hillary-clinton-/

          People for the American Way is a Soros group as is Moveon.org both involved in violent election protests. Creamer is a convicted felon who visited the Obama White House about 300 times, was involved in hiring homeless people and mentally ill to disrupt campaign rallys (exposed in Veritas interview).

          1. You claim to refer to the Washington Post, but the link is to Washington Times; they may not be Alex Jones, but they are not a reputable source.

       2. David Horowitz has a book called Big Agenda that lists several pages of Soros connected groups. Many of them are environmental groups that do work I have supported for decades; why does Soros? Hm, well I guess I will have to read the book to find out.

    3. One of the reasons the Charlottesville police have stated for their response, is they were heavily outgunned by these lunatics carrying automatic weapons. As for your paranoid conspiracy claims, no such thing has been “proven”, it has been asserted by far-right radio talkshow hosts, but remains an evidence- free claim.

    4. It sounds like Mr. Anthony is a member of the Alt-Right’

       1. Perhaps Michael can tell us how such an ad hominem attack elevates the discussion?

          1. I can Eric. It raises the level of the discussion, because your anti-Semitic comment about George Soros is in the gutter.

             1. Was there an anti Semitic comment I didn’t notice? Many people who are not anti Semites, and many who oppose Trump, are tired of billionaires secretly swaying governments.

                If there is no anti Semitic remark that I missed, you might want to retract your comment. Because if these kinds of names are to be flung about at any idea with which you disagree, it does raise the question whether we really are in imminent danger of a Fourth Reich, or whether perhaps the threat of a Nazi takeover by fat middle aged Walmart shoppers and teenage neckbeard gamers might be overstated just a tad.

20. Thank you, Will..

    we here in the Commonwealth are so lucky and should be grateful for the strong but open messages being sent by our governmental officials.
    The Sothern Poverty Law Center which stands against hate and Injustice and for civil rights has been tracking hate groups for years. They started alerting people to the rise of hate groups once Barack Obama became president. The increase is huge.
    I urge everyone to go their website and view the ‘hate maps’ . We have been groups in MA.

21. Amen.

22. Thank you Will, well said.

23. This is a wonderful and powerful statement Senator that really makes us think about “Our America” and just how wonderful it is. I am so glad to live in America.

    Thank you.

24. Thank you.

25. One of my daughters graduated from the University of Virginia, and so spent four years in Charlottesville. So this event hit very close to home for her and us.

26. Read “On Tyranny” by Timothy D. Snyder.

27. As the child of Holocaust survivors, (not in concentration camps), this hits at my core. I am sickened by these people.

    That being said, they do have a right to protest PEACEFULLY.

    Personally, it takes two to tango, and if the opposition would just ignore them, as a strategy, no tragedy can occur too.

    Both sides were violent and one person went to the horrific extreme to use a car as a weapon as we have seen around the world now.

    The President was late to the party in denouncing these hate groups.

    We should just ignore them. Let them protest, but stay away, and by far, there would be less coverage and less problems.

    To me they are despicable, but they too live in our great land. They, however, in my opinion, make our great country less great for sure.

28. Thank you Will. An era of healing is certainly needed at this point in time, not increased dissent. I applaud your emphasis on the positive.

29. Thank you Will.

30. Thanks, Will. You have put the thoughts of many of us into eloquent words.

31. While I agree with you, for the most part, I take issue with you on: “Yes, a great many people voted for a President who doesn’t really want to disengage from white supremacists.” Frankly, I do not believe this for a minute and I don’t really think you do either. I voted for him, not for his political skills or flowery oratory, but to make this country great again. Unless you state the facts that back this up, you are maligning the President (and every voter like me who believes in him). At times like this, we all need to be on the same team. I think you should retract it but that’s up to you. Respectfully,

    1. I think I read that statement a bit differently than you did: it is definitely the case that a great many people voted for Trump, and I think “he doesn’t want to disengage from white supremacists” is a very fair statement. But I also don’t think, and I didn’t think Will was implying, that that is *why* most of the people who voted for him did so — I read the statement as suggesting just the opposite. He certainly tapped into that element, but he also tapped into a general frustration with the status quo, and there were lots of folks who didn’t agree with his racist agenda, but were willing to overlook it for some of the other things he was promising. I think it’s deeply unfair to lump those people in with white supremacists.

       I didn’t vote for him. I think his slogan of “make America great again” was another hollow statement by another sleazy politician, used to dupe the people he’s supposed to be serving. But I also don’t think holding him accountable is disrespectful to those who voted for him.

    2. Thank you, Phil. Ian read my statement right: I don’t mean that people voted for Trump because of his closeness to white supremacists. I think that people who voted for him were unaware of those ties or felt they were minimal.

       But by keeping Steve Bannon in the Whitehouse, Trump is staying closer to white supremacists than any leader should.

32. Thanks, Will. I was proud of Watertown’s peaceful vigil last night. Thanks for coming to that and for your words here.

33. Thanks, Will. I was proud of Watertown’s peaceful vigil last night and encouraged by the positive response we had from folks driving by. Thank you for coming to that and for your thoughtful response here.

34. I voted for President Trump and am proud of it. This doesn’t mean I am a racist but voted for someone who would be for America first. The situation in Virginia was sad. There was more than White supremacists there. This country has problems with those on the far right and those on the far left.
    David

    1. David,

       I didn’t vote for Mr. Trump, but I understand some good reasons why you and others did.

       Sadly, nothing he has said, done or tweeted has made me think he has any ability or desire to accomplish anything positive during his tenure as president.

35. From reports I saw the Right had weapons, batons,flags,guns & in one case an automobile that was used as a weapon and killed a woman. The “other side” were made up of Campus Students,faculty and City Residents (who had voted already to remove the Lee statue), and many of THESE people stopped to help people injured. The Right had marched the night before with torches,confederate flags,white supremacist, KKK, and Nazi signs aping Nazi torch parades in Germany last Century. I believe many came for out of State. Well, I had an Uncle who died to rid this world of such people as Hitler. The Right wants to resurrect those ideas and this should absolutely be opposed.
    I did NOT vote for Trump and he has no interest in representing ALL Americans, only those who actually voted for him. So Mr. Trump is no surprise to me.

36. I speak for many I’m sure when I say that your heartfelt presence at so many events, including the vigil at First Church on Monday, means much to me. Having leadership support the common citizen lends great comfort that we have a truly supportive community where democratic, humane principles will be carried forward in just and fair policies that consider us all equally. This reassurance is doubly important in times like this when the leadership of our country is so damaged, jeopardizing all we hold dear. Thanks, Will.

37. We should show up. We should speak up. Ceding the Common to demonstration of hate will not likely deprive oxygen to the haters… It may simply provide visuals of uncontested attack on our sciety. These visuals will not go away…. The stark, uncontested KKK parades in Washington D.C. and NYC in the 1920s are hard to watch and think about. The should not be a modern Boston version.

    1. You need to cede the Common–or part of it–to anybody who has a permit. That’s how it works. Counter protest from a safe distance. No violence period. Nobody needs self appointed cavalry riding in on their high horses.

       Any technique you want to ok against them can be used against you. Some people figured that out long ago and gave us this cool Constitution.

38. Well stated.
    Every group has the right to speak.
    No group has the right to be violent.
    We have a developmentally deficient president with no internalized moral code. He is a sick and dangerous man–a pure psychopath arrested at an infantile level.
    He is not fit to be the leader of the people of the country that you describe.

39. Thanks for the information. This is something I hopped we would never see/experience again.My cousin was a hidden child in Holland.

    at Gold

40. A separate venue for counter protestors sounds good to me. Even if I’m behaving, I’d rather not meet the one who is not head on. Besides maybe the supporters will be more numerous for U.S. ideals in another setting.

41. Thanks Will & hopefully Boston Police will make sure Paul Revere is not hurt or desecrated in any way for sitting astride his beautiful black stallion that assisted in keeping our Commonwealth alive & that our President keeps his mouth shut & stop all the turmoil he has created!

42. I listened to Pres. Trump’s interview today about the incident and found that the press has not responded to his comments about BOTH sides having violent people in their ranks. Nevertheless, the press and other news commentators continue to blame him for not responding to their accusation that he didn’t issue a statement concerning the kkk. Yet he did. He said that they were also guilty in their violence.On the other hand, Trump is not a model for a decent president.

    1. Let’s separate Trump’s buffoonery from the reality of the situation. Both sides in general–not at this specific rally–do have violent people in their ranks. Did you forget that a Bernie supporter tried to assassinate Republican Congressmen and almost succeeded? This narrative is beginning to sound very curious to me.

       I think the best message would be anti Nazis silently standing guard to protect the Nazis from violence. There was a similar photo from VA of a black cop guarding the KKK and it was extremely powerful.

43. Thank you Will for reminding us that it is a very small faction that believes in a homogenous America. I am still very grateful to live here in the America. Tolerance and acceptance is key.

44. Very well written. Thank you.

45. Thank you, Will, for your inspiring words and for being with all of us Monday night in Watertown Square. Your presence and support always mean so much, but especially in this difficult time.

46. Will,
    Have been away, and am glad to see your statement, with which I agree totally. It is very important to defend the basic principles of our democracy, especially when groups or individuals violate them. It is also important that we speak and act positively about the basic values of the USA.

47. As lovely and thoughtful as these words are, I sincerely hope our US Senate and House garner up the courage to act, to impeach.

48. My parents were Holocaust survivors (my great grandmother died in Auschwitz) and I owe it to them to continue the fight against Nazism and other hate groups. I am grateful they are no longer alive to see a Nazi flag being waved on American soil. I will be representing them at the counter-protest in Boston on Saturday.

49. If any of you would take the time to read the works by Alice Miller (e.g., For Your Own Good) you would clearly see the path from child abuse to violent ideologies and worse. People who voted for Trump, including me, were sick of seeing this country auctioned off to multinational corporations and lousy trade deals. Trump is not Christ, he’s a flawed human, but he wasn’t Hillary either. The only vision she had was wanting to be the first woman president and we all saw how she crushed Bernie to do that.
    What happened in VA was terrible of course, but one mentally ill 20 year old is not the template for the vast swath of frustrated, disillusioned Americans that put someone in office cause he spoke to them-not in a racist dog whistle, but putting their work hard get ahead visions back on the table. The US is NOT a racist country except maybe a few pockets, most people have family and friends of every color and persuasion. And hating a few bigots won’t improve them, either.

    1. True, Lisa.

       Noone is saying that voting for Trump makes you a bigot.

       And I agree that most Americans, including most Trump voters, condemn neo-nazism.

       But right now, Trump is not providing the clear moral leadership towards unity and mutual tolerance that we need. Other recent Presidents, Republican and Democrat, have done much better on that.

       1. He could not do worse than Obama, who, in spite of his Nobel Peace Prize and the other Congressional Medal he awarded himself, seemed to do his level best to divide this country into victim/identity groups, making such rash statements as “The Cambridge Police acted stupidly” before any of the facts were in.

       2. The mainstream media won’t give him credit for waiting to get the whole story before speaking. If you recall , the whole world was waiting to see what North Korea was or wasn’t going to do. Meanwhile, it does seem like there is a wide array of entrenched politicians and others who do not want their insider trading and power disrupted by the non-politician outsider. Personally I’m sick of it. There needs to be TERM LIMITS at every level of government.

    2. When we talk about white terrorists as “mentally ill” but other terrorists as products of a flawed culture then yes, racism is a problem in the US.

       1. They are ALL mentally ill.

    3. Your evaluation in casting your precious vote should not have been Trump was not Hillary, but Trump was not Hitler.

       1. They are ALL mentally ill.he’s not.

50. Thank you for speaking out. It is important that we all do so at this time.

51. Good job of reaching across the isle.
    Don will just have to stand beside himself alone.

52. Thanks so much for reaching out on this. Great advice and a very nicely worded resolution! We’ll all need to be vigilant about our rejection of hate speech as well as tolerant towards others in the days ahead.

53. This Resolution and Proclamation makes me proud to be a citizen and resident of Massachusetts.

    And it ought to be sent to the Governors of the States, and also to newspapers and television stations.

54. I regret that the Joint Resolution did not denounce the President by name.

55. Thank you!

56. Thank you for standing up against racists and white supremacists.

57. Diversity is wonderful and it is what makes the world interesting and exciting as we share views and cultures. There is no room in the world for the hatred of the white nationalist and neo-Nazi ideology. This is all about violence and hatred and it saddens me to think that such people even exist in these times. I feel like we are going back in time and it is very, very scary.

58. We are all equal. Free speech alas means taking responsibility for what, how and why we speak.There was no room for hatred of other people or ideas that are different than our own. Thank you for standing up for our core human values and against the extreme views of
    people who have learned hate in its worst form

59. Thank you and the State of Massachusetts for standing up against the rise of racism & Nazism in our country.

60. Thank you for taking a stand against neo-nazism, white nationalism, and hatred!

61. Thank you!

62. Thanks for condemning white supremacy, I was worried for second. I think I saw on the news, some guy in Spain ran over a bunch of people with his van. Can you publicly condemn running people over with your car. Thanks

    1. Rocky, no joke. The point is this:

       We have a uniformed, organized brigade of neo-nazi’s marching into Charlottesville chanting slogans that go back to the liquidation of the Jews of Europe.

       We have a president who says there are “good people” among them.

       There are surely needy, sick humans among them, who, with some rehabilitation, perhaps, can be reformed and forgiven, but to call them “good people” is very poor moral leadership.

       Leadership matters. When you have a president who fails to consistently disapprove of them, other leaders need to stand up.

63. Glad to read such a condemnation! It’s a beginning. But dare I say, now what?
    I’m so tired of having to attend silent vigils. I’m tired to have to listen to racists, bigots, the KKK and neo-Nazis spew their hatred in the name of free speech. Being tolerant means allowing people to worship their god in whatever way they choose, to allow them to walk the earth in whatever color they were born into, to engage in meaningful discussion to further the understanding of ideas and methodologies and ideologies. It does not mean being silent in the face of hateful speech and actions.

    What we need is to stand by AND STAND UP FOR our brothers and sisters of color, who worship a god whose name is different than your god, who openly identify as non heterosexual and who are peaceful and respectful.

    It not enough to attend the silent vigils and then go home to warm and comfy homes to watch a movie.

    We have be the change every day. We have to not tolerate but call out our family members and friends for these hateful behaviors. And whats more we have to talk to them and try to understand these motivations and through our own resolve and measured discussions work hard to convince them that their hate is misguided, etc.

64. fran@amacher-associates.net

65. Thank you. My cousin was a hidden child and survivor.

66. Thank you to the leadership in Massachusetts- we are so lucky to live in this state and have representation that believes in the constitution and justice and liberty for all.
    How sad we in 2017 have the presence of white nationalism and neo-Nazi ideology – that is growing and that is increasing violence in our communities and threatening the lives of those who are in the minority. WE all need to make our voices heard and support those who are targeted. Praying that tomorrow is peaceful. Ann Capoccia

    1. Presence that is growing?

       Look at the projections.

       20-100 participants? But 5,000 counter protesters?

       My whole life we have done nothing but ignore these idiots, and my whole life the number of KKK members and neo Nazis has fallen like a rock.

       You might want to watch what Tina Fey had to say on SNL.

67. We are all a target of these hateful violent voices. Thanks to the political leaders of the Commonwealth for a clear, forceful statement in opposition to this ugly cancer on today’s body politic.

68. Support the U.S. Constitution that everyone counts and has rights. Keep
    America STRONG.

69. Well done!

70. Perfect! Boston and State Officials are doing their utmost to ensure maximum security even as they guarantee the sacred right of free speech without malevolence. Yeah! I am proud of this town and state. We are where this wonderful nation began, and we stand proudly to defend and affirm all its magnificent principles. We cannot be allowed, especially in these precarious times, to slip into the deep dark abyss of prejudice and retro ‘thinking’. Onward and upward.

    NJK

71. How come not a word about black lives matter killing cops or antifa violence seems like they are the ones doing all the damage and violence … But not a word …

    1. Q. The anonymous “G” asks for evidence that peaceful protestors of Black Lives Matter were violent.

       A. For centuries, the fascists — KKK, Nazis, white nationalists, white supremacists — vowed to use violence to buy, sell, own, and enslave other human beings. They still vow it today. This violence has been repeatedly video-graphed by hundreds of observers, participants, journalists, and public safety officers.

       But the violence that the fascists claim happens to them never arises. They only imagine it, which is why they have no footage of it.

       The reason no one talks about anti-fascist protesters committing violence upon fascists is because it doesn’t occur: no evidence, nothing to talk about.

72. We pray for the safety of all, in this exercise of free speech on the one hand, and moral outrage at the atrocities of Fascism’s historic and present violence and inhumanity on the other. May peace prevail, and racism abate.

73. Not Charlottesville or Baltimore (“Give them space to destroy…”); Let the police do their job (and I thank them for the risks they constantly take on our behalf!). Let those who think this is an MMA opportunity to do damage to their fellow human beings be arrested and prosecuted. This sounds like a good plan.

74. Thanks, Will, for making this information available in a clear form; and thanks to the BPD for its careful planning that we all hope will provide a peaceful opportunity for public expression of constitutional rights without hate language.

75. “yes,a great many people voted for a President who doesn’t really want to disengage from white supremacists.” sounds like you have been reading the DNC BIBLE and Workbook.

76. Free Speech should rule. What you like, I may not like, but you have the right to say it.

    The MSM (Main Stream Media) continues to give subjective reporting instead of being a “neutral party” and give the facts for us to decide. Otherwise it is slanted “propaganda”. The Media lumped the “Unite The Right” group that was trying to save the Robert E. Lee statue with the KKK and White Supremacist groups.

    The right wing group went thru the system to get a permit for a rally and was repeatedly denied. They finally won in court and the judge granted an injunction for the rally to proceed. The police gave the ground rules that gave a route with security barriers and that no masks would be tolerated.

    The left groups, ANTIFA and BLM NEVER applied for a rally and thus held an illegal gathering. They wore masks threw balloons filled with urine, feces, paint and chemicals. One of Katie Couric’s news crews were sprayed with urine.

    The ANTIFA and BLM also carried bats & sticks, lobbed smoke canisters, pepper sprayed people and threw rocks, bricks and cement-filled bottles. There is a picture of a Black man using an aerosol can as a fire torch against members of the right. All this while the police were ordered to “stand down” !

    How could such “lawlessness” be tolerated ? A “State of Emergency” was announced and the rally was canceled even before anything even happened ! The police actually made these Rightist groups exit into the den of the Leftist Groups! The police were actually laughing at Rightist getting sprayed in the face by mace from the Leftists. This was an “ambush” and meant to punish any dissenters that the local politicians don’t agree with.

    One of the far right speakers that goes by the name “Baked Alaska” was just walking on his way to the rally when he was sprayed in the face with what he thought was “mace”. It turned out to be “acid” like the Muslims are using in London. He may lose his sight.

    There are reports out there that James Alex Fields Jr. was chased by Leftist just trying to get to his car to leave. He asked police for help and got none. Evidence has emerged, that before plowing into the crowd, murder suspect Field’s car had been repeatedly attacked by bat-wielding rioters and he only accelerated when his car was hit by a brick. For sure, after he had the collision, his car is seen being attacked by people with bats & sticks. There are pictures of THAT ! That’s why he sped off in reverse at high rate of speed.

    Others have reported that he had mental problems, but that is NO excuse ! That poor woman died and I think 19 injured. While pedestrians were trying to help the injured, people kept repeating “Where are the police ?” “Where are the ambulances ?”

    This against the fault of the politicians when the rules flow downhill. They make STUPID decisions that endanger people’s safety. The only ones to suffer are the ordinary citizens. Now comes the blame game where the politicans will disavow any culpability and place blame on the lowest man on the totem pole.

    I hate the KKK and I dislike the White Supremacist groups, but if they went thru a process to get a permit to march and the courts ruled in the affirmative, that’s the price of a free society.

    Just like when the Gay Irish went thru the legal system to be able to be part of the St. Patrick’s Day Parade. I don’t understand it, but the courts rules against them ?

    Years ago, the KKK were refused the right to march through Skokie, Illinois. They took their case with the help of the ACLU, represented by a Jewish lawyer Burton Joseph of the firm Joseph, Lichtenstein & Levinson went all the way to the Supreme Court and won ! When a Jewish lawyer can defend the KKK proves that Freedom of Speech rules. I didn’t like it, but that is the freedom we have in this country. BTW, they ended up changing their plans and marched in Chicago and I’m sure the police protected their safety.

    The Governor of VA, the Mayor and the Vice Mayor of Charlottesville are all playing partisan politics and are skirting the rule of law. The politicians will “pander” to fringe groups and whatever the “PC du jour” of the day is. And you thought that all the toxic politics was in Congress.

    Then Governor McAuliffe went on the radio and lied according to the State Police.
    “Virginia State Police called Governor Terry Mcauliffe ‘A Lying Democrat'”…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wB0ZxytRd0

    This is sickening in a Democratic Society.

    I’m afraid that Donald Trump was being “honest” when he spoke about Charlottesville, even though he is taking HEAT for it. Everyone else is running for cover to be “politically correct” even though the facts don’t support it.

    Why can’t people have a debate with words instead of fists ?

    One reason is that certain radical groups won’t even allow debates to take place. When factional minority groups can make the rules for all of us and the politicians “pander” to them, this is not Democracy.

    Our country is on a downhill slide folks.

    1. Amen Bill glad someone gets it !

77. I think a man from the North of us can bundle up the whole story of Charlottesville and put it one rational presenation.

    His name is Stephan Molyneaux from Canada. He is a kind of philosopher, raconteur, high tech entrepreneur and runs Freedom Main Radio.

    He gives the background story and behind the scenes story. He is very thorough with facts and footnotes all his facts. He preaches non-violence. I think if you have 20+ minutes to listen, it is definitely worthwhile and eyeopening.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjg3joKXfqc&t=15s

78. Thank you, Senator Brownsberger, for your comments and for the Joint Resolution.

    Since Charlottesville, this presidency has moved the knob from “Really Distressing” to “Downright Ominous.” This man is destroying the U.S. and our citizenship in the enlightened sector of the international community. Can state governments demand Trump’s resignation. Joint Resolutions are not enough at this point.
    yvonne

79. The event has been set up to fail. Why schedule two opposing viewpoints at the same time and same place. We will see this on the news as how Boston is racist.

80. Thanks. Be safe.

81. You wrote: “….many have different views, most people are kind and tolerant….”

    Many more Americans were kind and tolerant until Obama fundamentally changed America. I’m not a hyphenated American. Shamefully, many are living here in America but have not accepted America’s values.

    And will someone please tell me on what grounds Mr. Trump should or could be impeached?

    1. Barack Obama was absolutely committed to the laws and constitution of the United States — and he understood the role of the courts in enforcing them. Our current president basically scorns the judiciary and rarely misses a chance to denigrate them.

       Granted President Obama got partisan and slipped off message from time to time, but his central message was about unity under the law. It is the reaction to his Presidency that was divisive.

       In what respect do you feel that Obama “fundamentally changed America”?

82. Senator, I support you! Well said,
    My issue with you is that you only see with your left eye. Open both your eyes to see all that is wrong and that’s happening in our country and in the world. Where is your condemnation of the BLM movement who advocate the murdering of innocent police officers, or the riots and looting in Ferguson MI and Baltimore MD? Where is your condemnation of radical jihadist Islamists murdering innocent people throughout the world? Do you support destroying historical statues and monuments throughout our country? Do you support erasing history? That’s what ISIS has been doing in the Middle East for years and that’s what the Nazis did in the 1930’s. History must be taught to our youth or it will be repeated. I hope that we are not on a straight course for a second Civil War, but I think we are. I do not want this for the country that I LOVE

    1. Thanks Dean,

       I agree with you — we should not condone lawlessness in any form. Passionately, I oppose lawlessness directed at our public servants.

       But here’s the thing — basically everyone is against that already and this President and the last President condemned violence and lawlessness.

       The problem is that the current President is equivocal in his condemnation of White supremacists and therefore other leaders need to speak out on that.

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